James Gasik
We don't talk about Pun-Pun
Gut bacteria may not have a stat block, but by definition, it is a monster, for what that's worth.
D&D General How would you make this ruling? Vortex Warp
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W'rkncacnter
Hero
how do you fight gut bacteria? it's too small to interact with in any meaningful way (other then by killing its host, i guess).
James Gasik
We don't talk about Pun-Pun
There was just a thread last week I think, about shrinking down PC's to tiny size!
W'rkncacnter
Hero
i uh. i don't think a house cat is interacting with gut bacteria.
James Gasik
We don't talk about Pun-Pun
Lol. Well I recall someone in that thread talking about how there was a Dragon issue with stats for single-celled organisms, so they mentioned a "Fantastic Voyage" scenario they put their PC's through.
SteveC
Doing the best imitation of myself
This would be a complete house ruling, but I'd let the caster make a check with their spellcasting skill. I'd just make it a 15 to start with. Success? Works as they want. Failure? The swallowed character takes some damage from being bumped around and is still swallowed.
W'rkncacnter
Hero
bro really put his party on the magic school bus
pukunui
Legend
Eh, I wouldn't impose any damage on the swallowed creature. All those squishy internal organs surrounding them will cushion the blow. Plus they'll be taking plenty of damage from the stomach acid. No need to punish the PC more for having had the gall to get swallowed (pun intended).
With the Swarm rules.
This is the fun kind of ruling that can ruin a game.
Most players are super happy to say "sure the 2nd level spell can teleport away any monster that swallows a 'poor' PC".
And many will say it is true for a grapple or other such holding of a creature.
Many might do it case by case, where the players approve when it somehow benefits them in the game...
Though you might see the crack as soon as this is used on a player. As soon as a weak kobold sorcerer frees a foe from a PCs grip, they players will be quick to cry "no fair" or "the spell should not work that way!" or the classic "this game is not consistent!"
This is why I do recommend having a DM make and enforce the ruling that is best for the game. But that is just my thoughts....
Most players are super happy to say "sure the 2nd level spell can teleport away any monster that swallows a 'poor' PC".
And many will say it is true for a grapple or other such holding of a creature.
Many might do it case by case, where the players approve when it somehow benefits them in the game...
Though you might see the crack as soon as this is used on a player. As soon as a weak kobold sorcerer frees a foe from a PCs grip, they players will be quick to cry "no fair" or "the spell should not work that way!" or the classic "this game is not consistent!"
This is why I do recommend having a DM make and enforce the ruling that is best for the game. But that is just my thoughts....
